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Jilocasin wrote:High school game gets five kids pregnant.

I really shouldn't find that so damn funny. It definitely is though.

But I'm not quite sure what the problem is. The age of consent in Poland is 15, so its legal for most of the participants, and near enough for the 14 year olds that most people will let it go. Why exactly is a prosecutor involved? Its not like there are young men over 20 joining in, or the teachers taking part. Right? Please someone tell me its not so?

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Blasted wrote:That's not a game! That's an orgy!

It's also why everyone needs comprehensive sexual education.

Isn't that a country where reproductive education and abortion are banned?

-Crissa

Crissa wrote:What's worse than an oil spill?

...A radioactive oil spill.

-Crissa

Actually, the Soviets used nukes to try and cap oil wells five times. It had an 80% success rate.

So yes, bring out the nukes! Let's get Bruce Willis on the job.

I believe the article at my link said as much. However, the time required to implement such a device would be longer than the relief wells (which are being drilled). So it's really not something to consider unless the relief wells don't work.

They used it to cap gas wells, which aren't as easy to relieve their pressure with other wells.

Also, it's illegal.

-Crissa

Michael Bay and Bruce Willis spit upon your legal shenanigans.

Break out the nukes!

Let it go long enough and we might get an alligator filled wall of fire.

Virtual schools online. Three quarters the per-pupil cost of a brick and mortar school, three quarters the standardized test results. Apparently parents are happy. I dunno about accountants, tho.

-Crissa

Fucking ROFL!

I saw that today and laughed. I told a friend, and he sent me this:

That's awesome too!

I'm wondering how you shoot a man four times in the head.

-Crissa

Low velocity bullets can punch into the body, but lack the force to go all the way through. The bullets might have just bounced around inside the skull. And if this is an automatic weapon, the range was "close" according to the forensic team, so I don't find the idea of a burst of fire leaving that many rounds in the head entirely implausible.

The Tetris/Oil Spill Comic is pretty funny. It also seems generally accessible enough that my older coworkers at the library get the joke, which is nice since I'm doing my weekly volunteer shift at the Information desk right now.

Avoraciopoctules wrote:Low velocity bullets can punch into the body, but lack the force to go all the way through. The bullets might have just bounced around inside the skull. And if this is an automatic weapon, the range was "close" according to the forensic team, so I don't find the idea of a burst of fire leaving that many rounds in the head entirely implausible.

He was shot five times in total. It just seems odd to me that many shots were required.

-Crissa

As I said: Automatic weapon + Close range + Holding down trigger = high probability of getting multiple bullets in the target. I have no idea what the training and equipment of the average Israeli commando is like, so I have no idea whether this was actually what happened, but if this was a burst of automatic fire, I doubt that the soldier would have much choice over exactly how many bullets connected.

I would be considerably more disturbed if forensics indicated "Point-Blank", rather than "Close" range, as I think that would imply much more strongly that the number of bullets was a deliberate choice.

Well, Israel says they had handguns, the protesters say automatic weapons.

I dunno which they had. It just seems overkill, either way.

Who needs to have a burst weapon to commandeer an unarmed vessel, anyhow?

-Crissa

Crissa wrote:

Avoraciopoctules wrote:Low velocity bullets can punch into the body, but lack the force to go all the way through. The bullets might have just bounced around inside the skull. And if this is an automatic weapon, the range was "close" according to the forensic team, so I don't find the idea of a burst of fire leaving that many rounds in the head entirely implausible.

He was shot five times in total. It just seems odd to me that many shots were required.

-Crissa

Crissa wrote: He was shot five times in total. It just seems odd to me that many shots were required.

Not familiar with Israeli RoE, but a classic police training doctrine is "shoot until the target is no longer a threat". Since you can fire pretty quickly even with a semiautomatic handgun, this can mean putting several bullets in a person pretty quickly. And since they often define threat as "still moving" or "still standing", they sometimes do that.
For more on this, look up the Amadou Diallo shooting.

Note: I am not saying this is a good or justifiable policy...just that some people do it. And it's not entirely without rationale; people have absorbed several bullets and still killed the person that shot them. There is a recorded case of a man being shot 6 times in the head at close range, with none of the bullets penetrating his skull.

In short, he was probably shot 5 times because soldiers tend to get trigger happy when they think they're under attack. Since it specified close range, if the guy was trying to close or grapple with the Israeli, he probably just opened up. Neither soldiers nor cops tend to fire one bullet and pause to see the effect is has before firing more.

Actually, ABC just probably got the number of bullets in the head wrong because they're quoting a shithead Turkish News Agency rather than the guys who actually did the fucking autopsy/.

ABC is claiming four bullets in the head and one in the chest.

CNN meanwhile:

One casualty, a 19-year-old dual national Turkish-American citizen named Furkan Dogan, was found to have bullet wounds in his head and multiple bullets in his body, Ince said

Ince is the Director of Istanbul's Medical Examination Institute. And having multiple bullets in the body and just multiple wounds in the head sounds more correct. Because four bullets in the head would most likely mean there would be no head left to examine.

http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/meast ... tml?hpt=T1

Also, the activists are admitting they stole guns from the Israeli Commandos. But only to "throw away the catridges".

WTF? The commandos didn't even start fucking shooting until the activists tried to "disarm" the commandos.

Really, it seems to me that this whole thing was a sham that was meant to lead to this:

http://edition.cnn.com/2010/OPINION/06/ ... index.html

z0mg, turkey arranged for Israeli commandos to illegally board a ship in international waters, so they can gain control of the middle east! It's all so clear to me now, why didn't I see it before?

Presumably they were also responsible for jamming communications, right? And of course those dastardly turks foiled the plans to peacefully stop the ships by disabling them. Israel was helpless in the face of such wily tricks of course. Then, having been forced to attack the ships they had no choice but to rappel down into the midst of the sailors and activists to save them from their own folly. Only when the dust settled did they realize the horrible truth: they had been tricked into using live ammunition instead of gel rounds.

Sheesh. Words fail me. Seriously, "turkey was behind it"? That idea belongs in tinfoil-hat country. Far, far inside it.

Zinegata wrote:Because four bullets in the head would most likely mean there would be no head left to examine.

Contrary to television, no, bullets do not cause your head to explode like a ripe watermelon...at least, not the bullets fired from a typical handgun. This is because your head has this thing called a skull.

http://www.officer.com/web/online/Opera ... ot/3$33691

I found that in about 20 seconds...note the first paragraph mention of a man being shot in the head with a shotgun slug. I can't find the account I mentioned earlier (the 6 rounds to the head, with none penetrating the skull), but I read about it some years back. I'd dig up more, but I frankly can't be bothered. Look around: bullets do not destroy people's heads.

So no, there would likely be plenty of head left. That head might even be talking and breathing.

Guns are great, I love them. But they are not magic wands, and they do not destroy limbs and extremities (under most circumstances). Please leave hyperbole to Hollywood.

Zinegata wrote: WTF? The commandos didn't even start fucking shooting until the activists tried to "disarm" the commandos.

This is especially impressive when you consider that the IDF opened fire before actually boarding the ship. I suppose the terrists used their Hamas-issued time manipulation devices to transport the guns into the past and started firing them before they could possibly have gotten their hands on them, or something?

Has anyone got links to the videos of the raid released by Turkey?
All I've found is the IDF videos.

PoliteNewb wrote:This is because your head has this thing called a skull.

[citation needed]

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